Star Trek (2009) - Timeline issues

[Prime Good]

trekmovie.com/2008/12/11/bob-orci-explains-how-the-new-star-trek-movie-fits-with-trek-canon-and-real-science/

My points:

1- ORCI is wrong. Dead wrong. He's basically saying there's no an "unified" PRIME UNIVERSE anymore, because the previous time travel events created many alternate universes.
Thus, when KIR & CO. travelled back to 1986, they created an Alternate Universe...

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2- ... but this implies they never returned to "their" 2280 or so. If you create an Alternate Universe, you can ONLY fast forward its new timeline, you can't go back to your "Prime Universe" future. Got my point? You're trapped. Like Spock Prime in 2009 ST.

3- So he's saying STAR TREK 5, 6 and THE NEXT GENERATION and VOYAKER and DS9 are all set in the Alternative Universe created by STAR TREK 4.

4- AND all the time travels following or preceding STAR TREK 4 also created new Alternate Universes. For instance, 'THE NAKED TIME' created an Alternate Universe. This means the Enterprise neve came back to the REAL "Prime Timeline".

Basically, the whole ST saga is fragmented in many universes...


I DON'T BUY THIS.

[GhostBuggy]

Your thoughts on this matter are interesting, indeed! It is something to think about, and discuss!

[Devil of the Ghostbusters]

First off, I held my fingers (since thats how i type) on this because I ain't really a star trek or star wars fan. I know, how could you not?!.... Well its a similar reason as some here don't like Sony's GBs fans. I have no problem with the logic, what my problem is, the attitude is the problem. They have they "Super Fans" that buy everything and then after awhile they become stagnant within the franchise and I feel out of pure boredom start over-thinking everything. And reading this article, I get the very feeling.


Here, this address how I feel about the fans of star trek, and also is a good laugh.
www.hulu.com/watch/72444/saturday-night-live-update-feature-star-trek

[gary]

I had a lot of complaint about the Star Trek movie, the time travel didn't fit correctly as you said, the costumes didn't fit the acors very well, the ship was 30% futuristic 70% antiquated in the 20th century, there was more wrong with that movie than was right with it - it is my least favorite of the franchise and the laziest production.

In some theorys Time Travelers would go into alternate timelines but you end up with the sort of tangled timelines we see on Doctor Who now that the regulators of time the Time Lords are gone.

You are correct that in every temporal incursion there would be a diffrent timeline formed with Orci's vision, and i suppose i could have lived with it if the movie wasn't a sloppy production from top to bottom.

I don't buy this either, in the 26th century starfleet was dedicated to keeping the timeline strait (as we saw in Voyager and Enterprise) the only thing that i could see that might begin to justify his point of view would be if at the end of the Temporal Cold War everyone was denied the ability to influence or travel in time.
This would mean time would become unregulated and un regulatable.

We do not know how the Temporal Cold War ended or who if anyone won it.

Orci is a lazy writer and the sad thing is that CBS/Paramount in trusting him to make Star Trek more accessible to mon fans may have destablised everything created sinse the 1960's.

[greedigut]

I'm a pretty big fan of all things Trek, and I did not care for the new film. As said above, there's a lot wrong with the production values and the timeline/realities debacle. The one thing I really did like about the movie is Karl Urban's portrayal of Bones. I think he was spot-on while everyone else was fairly lame. None of the other actors reminded me of the originals. It felt more like they simply filled the roles with actors of the same race/color as the originals. It was nice to see Nimoy as the old Spock, though.