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Post by Devil of the Ghostbusters on Aug 14, 2010 7:01:04 GMT -5
i watched both back to back today watched 10 episodes of the ghost busters and watched the movie i noticed there are very few silmalarites with the excetion of the car the name ghostbusters thats it also speaking of ripping of things what about FGB86 the ecto strobe hmmm sounds ecto 1 r ectoplasm also jakes uniform does remind me alittle of the ghostbusters uniforms now i love both FGB & RGB Ectoplasm is not a term coined by Dan Aykroyd: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectoplasm_%28paranormal%29As for the Ecto-Strobe, as noted is basically FGB's PKE meter, and its name sets off warning flags. But as the term Ectoplasm is not exclusive, as Ecto means "Outside" and so it does infact scan area, usually outside. Strobe being how it scans in a way. So while it sounds like Sony's brand toy, it is infact well understood to mean what it is. The only reason "Ecto"plasm was so thought of being a Sony Ghostbusters term, is that it is used more in its franchise for both items, and common jargon terms. Dan Aykroyd based most of the equipment on real ghost hunter equipment and terms.
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Post by Devil of the Ghostbusters on Aug 14, 2010 7:13:05 GMT -5
There's one way in which the first film and the live-action series differ: In Ghostbusters, the ghosts actually pose something of a threat. They can't actually kill anyone themselves, but if a poltergeist were to fling a saucepan at just the right speed, and hit someone with it in just the right place...well, it could put them in the hospital. In The Ghost Busters, the ghosts never really did anything dangerous, and they were sometimes even a little incompetent. So true. But one needs to understand the restrictions of a medium too, as TV usually would not allow death, or serious danger. One clear difference between the RGB and later S and RGB was the factor that the series was being made more friendly due to ABC networks demands. The first 2 seasons of RGB's had a more adult approach due to J. Michael Straczynski which oddly enough worked for filmation some time before on other programming . My argument is leveled as two things: - J. Michael Straczynski wanted the RGB's to be more adult and less toony - the First Movie was in a different format that wanted a more adult audience to like it.
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Post by GhostBuggy on Aug 16, 2010 9:38:36 GMT -5
i watched both back to back today watched 10 episodes of the ghost busters and watched the movie i noticed there are very few silmalarites with the excetion of the car the name ghostbusters thats it But as I previously mentioned, the CGB84 library scene reminds me off the FGB75 file cabinet in their office Wouldn't you say? And again, I love both too. As a matter of fact, if I neglect to mention this fact, I hope it's remembered, if this conversation goes on (Rather than repeat myself TOO much!)
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Post by nix on Aug 16, 2010 19:13:58 GMT -5
I ask you, Ghost Buggy, in what way does the library scene remind you of the cabinet in the GB's office? Unless you're talking about the card catalogs, but that's entirely different: the catalog opened by itself and spat the cards out en masse, but the GB's file cabinet consistently refused to open to anyone except Tracy.
If anything, the scene where Ray, Egon, and Peter are down in the bookstacks are more reminiscent of the graveyard/castle scenes in the live-action show.
However, with all that said, I think the biggest indicator of GB84's status as not a ripoff of GB75 is the fact that Dan Aykroyd started the concept as "Ghost Smashers," which means he was most likely completely unaware of Filmation's show. The change to "Ghostbusters" must have come about as the original concept went through countless alterations.
If I recall correctly, ECTO 1 was originally meant to be a black car. It was only painted white when Ivan Reitman pointed out that it needed to be visible at night. So, I guess even the Ectomobile/Ghost Busters Car connection is, again, just a coincidence.
Also, Lou Scheimer indicates the source of the name on the DVD interview: he said that Marc Richards, the creator and main writer, said to him, "Well my concept is like Gangbusters [an old radio show], but instead of gang-busters, it's ghost-busters."
Besides, the central premise is nothing new. Keep in mind the old Bowery Boys comedy, Spook Busters, in which they form a (surprise!) ghost-extermination company. However, the '75 show was the first to introduce the idea that ghosts were real and could be eliminated through technological means. The '84 movie establishes its characters as scientists who study ghosts and eliminate supernatural threats in the same way that Orkin exterminators deal with insect and rodent pests. (They also study said ghosts in the process of capturing them, something which the characters of the '75 show express no interest in doing.)
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RGB & FGB FAN FOREVER can't the two just get along
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Post by sydmorrison on Aug 16, 2010 22:04:51 GMT -5
well said nix
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Post by GhostBuggy on Aug 17, 2010 9:43:36 GMT -5
I ask you, Ghost Buggy, in what way does the library scene remind you of the cabinet in the GB's office? Unless you're talking about the card catalogs, but that's entirely different: the catalog opened by itself and spat the cards out en masse, but the GB's file cabinet consistently refused to open to anyone except Tracy. That's exactly it - the card catalogs and file cabinet both act haunted. And I admit I saw that comparison made on a youtube link for FGB75, so this seemingly bad idea is not even my own. Whether I would have decided that on my own eventually, who knows. Maybe it's a stretch, after all. But even as my earlier post stands, it wasn't to say I really thought it was a rip off - just reminiscent.
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Post by Prime Good on Aug 21, 2010 19:22:49 GMT -5
Besides, the central premise is nothing new. Keep in mind the old Bowery Boys comedy, Spook Busters, in which they form a (surprise!) ghost-extermination company. However, the '75 show was the first to introduce the idea that ghosts were real and could be eliminated through technological means. This is a fascinating point, my friend. I'm left wondering how the Spook Busters managed to catch/fight ghosts without machinery of any sort.
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Post by Prime Good on Aug 21, 2010 19:29:09 GMT -5
From the Spook Busters article on Wikipedia:
The film, made under the working title Ghost Busters.[1]
Is it me or this name kept pop up everywhile?
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Post by Devil of the Ghostbusters on Aug 21, 2010 21:47:32 GMT -5
From the Spook Busters article on Wikipedia: The film, made under the working title Ghost Busters.[1]Is it me or this name kept pop up everywhile? After reading about it, with a setting similar to Sony Ghostbusters, and a style of comedy similar to Filmations Ghost Busters with a gorilla towards the end of the movie one has to think.....WOW. Wish I could see it to confirm what it is.
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Post by nix on Aug 21, 2010 23:52:23 GMT -5
This is a fascinating point, my friend. I'm left wondering how the Spook Busters managed to catch/fight ghosts without machinery of any sort. Apparently, the ghosts weren't real. It's like Scooby Doo in that regard. "You meddling kids!"
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Post by Prime Good on Aug 22, 2010 5:13:57 GMT -5
Devil,
The source for that info is reliable. It's an official and professional book on the Bowery Boys.
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Post by Devil of the Ghostbusters on Aug 22, 2010 12:02:37 GMT -5
Devil, The source for that info is reliable. It's an official and professional book on the Bowery Boys. Not doubting it in the bit, but still seeing is believing. You know.
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Post by Prime Good on Aug 22, 2010 17:21:03 GMT -5
Devil, The source for that info is reliable. It's an official and professional book on the Bowery Boys. Not doubting it in the bit, but still seeing is believing. You know. Me too. I'm wondering who revealed that to the author.
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