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Post by Prime Good on Oct 10, 2007 13:30:31 GMT -5
Hey guys,
Can you check the very first episode of the series? I would like to got details on the backstory - how they discovered the whole Skelevator and transformation process, when and how Prime Evil was trapped by the original Ghost Busters and so on.
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Post by Zack on Oct 10, 2007 14:24:10 GMT -5
I think after their dads go missing, a book pops out of a filing cabinet and Jake and Eddie look at it. It's a Ghostbusters guidebook I think. It has pictures of the Ghost Buggy and other stuff "Look, a Ghost Buggy that can travel through time. And a secret tranformation room with Ghostbuster uniforms" Eddie says "I bet our dads don't even know about this." I think Eddie then runs into something and the wall opens up to the room with Skelevator. Jake says "I think you just found the secret room" or something, then he Eddie and Tracy do the high five in the air and then it goes into the transformation sequence like it always does. Prime Evil previously gets trapped in the mine in a vault with Brat-A-Rat after he chases Jake and Eddie(who are learning to be Ghostbusters) and their dads and they lock him in. I forget how long he's in there but it shows in the future, Belfrey accidentally lets Prime Evil out when he thinks he's another bat trapped in there. Then Prime Evil goes back in time if I remember correctly to stop the Ghostbusters. (Back in time to their present day when Jake and Eddie are learning to be Ghostbusters) After they lock him in the vault, one of their dads says "thats one ghost you won't have to worry about." Something like that! This is all what I remember from memory.
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Post by Prime Good on Oct 10, 2007 14:36:56 GMT -5
I think after their dads go missing, a book pops out of a filing cabinet and Jake and Eddie look at it. It's a Ghostbusters guidebook I think. It has pictures of the Ghost Buggy and other stuff "Look, a Ghost Buggy that can travel through time. And a secret tranformation room with Ghostbuster uniforms" Eddie says "I bet our dads don't even know about this." I think Eddie then runs into something and the wall opens up to the room with Skelevator. Whoa. At this point we can assume that there were Ghost Busters/Ghostbusters long time before Jack Kong Sr. and Eddie Spenser Sr. Maybe the Ghost Command was one of the properties of the "mysterious man" originally giving order to the Ghost Busters, in the live action series. BRILLIANT! MMmmmm... so Prime Evil comes from future, technically speaking. I'm wondering HOW MANY times Ghostbusters's timeline has been "altered" by time-travelling.
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Post by Zack on Oct 10, 2007 14:53:55 GMT -5
I wonder if that was a bit naive or childlike of Eddie to assume their dads didn't know about it. I wonder if either 1)Their dads knew about it and were going to tell them about the car and the uniforms. (I wonder if it was a converted Ghost Buggy from their old car. 2) The transformation room and Ghost Buggy are created by Ghostbusters in the future and put there to be discovered by Jake and Eddie, to help save their dads. I dunno its all confusing speculation
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Post by Prime Good on Oct 10, 2007 15:06:23 GMT -5
2) The transformation room and Ghost Buggy are created by Ghostbusters in the future and put there to be discovered by Jake and Eddie, to help save their dads. Futura's superiors?I still think there are so MANY mysteries surrounding both the GB series. Maybe, the "mysterious man" behind the original Ghost Busters was one of Futura's superiors coming from a "possible" future too. Who knows. I like the idea that FORMER Ghostbusters (in the remote past) were responsible to have created such a complex transformation chamber. I mean, that is a parallel dimensional plane. A warp of some sort. Still, do not forget the Ghost Command is an haunted house!
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Post by Zack on Oct 10, 2007 15:14:52 GMT -5
yeah there's a lot of possibilities! Especially as it relates to Zero, giving the original guys their assignments. One thing I wondered about, we never see the Ghostbusters get payed for anything. Are we left to assume their services are free or they just never talk about that part? Or if the Ghostbusters came into a lot of money?
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Post by Prime Good on Oct 10, 2007 15:24:53 GMT -5
yeah there's a lot of possibilities! Especially as it relates to Zero, giving the original guys their a*signments. One thing I wondered about, we never see the Ghostbusters get payed for anything. Are we left to a*sume their services are free or they just never talk about that part? Or if the Ghostbusters came into a lot of money? I think they were rich, to begin with. Maybe Zero was REALLY the one who wrote the GB guidebook and all. Maybe he also founded (and funded) the FORMER team of Ghost Busters, those preceding Kong Sr. and Spenser Sr. And maybe - in an attempt to "mix-up" our different theories - he ALSO came from Futura's future... or even further! Whoa.
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Post by Kong Sr. on Nov 29, 2007 21:36:12 GMT -5
The Spencer family seems to have a long history of dealing with the supernatural. In the live-action series Eddie Sr.'s ancestor was Edward Spencer who banished the Witch of Salem. Eddie Sr. vows to send her back "just like my ancestor did."
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Post by Prime Good on Nov 30, 2007 10:02:48 GMT -5
The Spencer family seems to have a long history of dealing with the supernatural. In the live-action series Eddie Sr.'s ancestor was Edward Spencer who banished the Witch of Salem. Eddie Sr. vows to send her back "just like my ancestor did." TRUE! That's why Zero (from the future) "picked up" Eddie Spenser Sr. as 'Ghost Buster', much likely. So basically a GB timeline HAS to start from the time Edward Spenser battled with the witches of Salem. What's about Jake's ancestor in the Old West? What's his name?
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Post by 8bitstar on Nov 30, 2007 21:04:11 GMT -5
The entire origin story was confusing. For example, they find the Ghost Gummer as part of their basic equipment, but the episode "Statue of Liberty" says that the ghost gummer is Tracy's *newest invention!*
Personally I kind of think of it like this: The first five episodes are a kind of "meta-story" that is happening around and between events of the main series. Since there's time travel involved, its possible.
I didn't even account for the original GB show at all though.
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Post by Prime Good on Dec 1, 2007 10:16:36 GMT -5
The entire origin story was confusing. For example, they find the Ghost Gummer as part of their basic equipment When??? Is it stated somewhere in the first episodes?
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Post by 8bitstar on Dec 1, 2007 17:18:03 GMT -5
In the very first episode, actually. It's just there along with the rest of their equipment.
Another inconsistency: In the pilot episode both the fathers and the sons act like they had never seen or heard of Prime Evil before, and yet according to "The Headless Horseman Caper" Prime Evil was responsible for Jake's great-grandfather losing a fortune.
Actually, you know what... have you ever read Phil Farrand's Nitpicker's Guides to Star Trek and X-Files? Maybe someone should do something like that for FGB. Those guides are dang fun.
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Post by Prime Good on Dec 1, 2007 18:53:00 GMT -5
In the very first episode, actually. It's just there along with the rest of their equipment. Another inconsistency: In the pilot episode both the fathers and the sons act like they had never seen or heard of Prime Evil before, and yet according to "The Headless Horseman Caper" Prime Evil was responsible for Jake's great-grandfather losing a fortune. Well, I have two theories to "fix" such inconsistencies... I'm looking forward your view on 'em by now, 8: 1- Yes, the Ghost Gummer was part of the basic equipment they discovered, but still stuck at experimental level. Tracy just repaired it and released its full potential once and for all. Thus, the credit. Or MAYBE, even better, originally the Ghost Gummer had a different function, but Tracy converted it into the version they will eventually play in the series. 2- Yeah. Maybe Prime Evil was known by another name at the time... or Jake & father were anaware of their ancestor's misadventure, I'm quite fine with it. ;D
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Post by nix on Apr 29, 2008 9:59:59 GMT -5
2- Yeah. Maybe Prime Evil was known by another name at the time... or Jake & father were unaware of their ancestor's misadventure, I'm quite fine with it. ;D Or perhaps, the great-grandfather didn't know who Prime Evil was, and ascribed the loss of his fortune to a nameless "ghost of the mine".
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Post by Prime Good on Apr 29, 2008 18:20:27 GMT -5
2- Yeah. Maybe Prime Evil was known by another name at the time... or Jake & father were unaware of their ancestor's misadventure, I'm quite fine with it. ;D Or perhaps, the great-grandfather didn't know who Prime Evil was, and ascribed the loss of his fortune to a nameless "ghost of the mine". Another good theory.
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