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Post by nixfgbfan on Jun 25, 2018 18:14:19 GMT -5
That 1982 date is interesting. I can only assume that Lou Scheimer wanted to get an animated series off the ground, but for whatever reason couldn't.
Let me make one guess: Filmation was working on He-Man and the Masters of the Universe at the time. I certainly don't blame the powers that be: An action-adventure series, full of sword and sorcery, sounded like a bigger draw than another ghost comedy (cf. Groovie Goolies, Scooby-Doo, and Goober and the Ghost Chasers). Their instincts were right.
Thus Ghost Busters Part II was shelved until 1984. The 1982 copyright suggests to me Filmation's effort to renew and hold on to the rights to a work named Ghost Busters. When Lou couldn't get the rights to the Aykroyd/Ramis property, he took the '82 concept and retooled it into Filmation's Ghostbusters (note the one-word name).
That being said, this artwork could simply be an "ashcan copy" of sorts--a way to say, "Hey, look, we're developing something here!"
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Post by nixfgbfan on Jun 25, 2018 17:20:54 GMT -5
Sadly, I've come to look less and less like either David.
I've also come to find myself falling out of love with "Who." No, it's nothing to do with Jodie Whittaker's announcement as the new Doctor; it's more that I just don't really have as much time as I used to have for it!
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Post by nixfgbfan on May 3, 2018 18:51:00 GMT -5
Last night I was reading "When the Moon is Full", and it was spelt "DematerialiSer". Since all the other names were 100% correct, it made me wonder what's the official in-universe spell of the iconic weapon's name. It's "Demateriali zer" if you're a Yank, and "Demateriali ser" if you're a limey.
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Post by nixfgbfan on Aug 12, 2017 9:12:32 GMT -5
More specifically, Abbott and Costello, since that's who I feel Jake and Eddie were modeled after and intended to be. (Also, the connection to the "Meet the Monsters" movies is irresistible!) The parallel never ever crossed my mind, even if it should have. The usual rule of thumb for a comedy double-act is, "If it's not based on Laurel and Hardy, it's based on Abbott and Costello."
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Post by nixfgbfan on Jun 17, 2017 10:06:44 GMT -5
By the way: Have you noticed the little homage to our boys in the new movie? Yes! Is it the fact that Rowan is basically Airhead from the episode "Mummy Dearest" (i.e. a sentient bundle of cloth grown to giant size)?
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Post by nixfgbfan on Jun 16, 2017 17:17:03 GMT -5
It's harder to gauge animation than live-action, isn't it?
Since what's on the screen isn't always terribly reliable, I'm going to cheat a little and apply real-world measurements to Jake and Eddie. More specifically, Abbott and Costello, since that's who I feel Jake and Eddie were modeled after and intended to be. (Also, the connection to the "Meet the Monsters" movies is irresistible!)
Bud Abbott was 5'8", and Lou Costello was 5'5". That being said, Lou's weight made him look shorter than Bud.
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Post by nixfgbfan on Jun 13, 2017 18:01:26 GMT -5
(OFF TOPIC: I'm not sure how, but I appear to be automatically logged in...)
ON TOPIC: I saw it on opening day, and have rented the DVD from the library at least twice since then. Strangely, it seems to improve a little more after a couple of times.
Speaking as a lifelong fan of both franchises, I say that it's really not that bad on its own merits. It's perhaps overlong in places and needs some immediate explanations in others (for example, the "nuclear reactor" on top of ECTO-1 needed to be established earlier), but on the whole the story is more thought-out and given a better timeframe than the original. (Seriously: The span of time from the guys going into business, to Dana finding the terror dog in her fridge, to the first bust could be anywhere from a few months to a few days, and there needed to be a few more signifiers.)
Also, GB-16 isn't a carbon-copy of the original. The beats are familiar, but there are many, many divergences. I liked that the quartet actually came alive as characters right from the beginning, as opposed to "Bill Murray character," "Dan Aykroyd author-insert," "emotionless mad scientist," and "third-act everyman." (That being said, I can't really blame GB-84 for its shortcomings, given that it had to be completed within less than one year.)
I'll continue on with why it got the reception it did later on.
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Post by nixfgbfan on Feb 10, 2015 11:36:55 GMT -5
"MACHINE-BUSTERS" - SPECIES: Full-torso, Free-Roaming Apparition
- TYPE: Artificially-created ghost
- ATTACKS: Range, melee, possess, Special Attacks
The latest in Machine-Cult technology, the "Machine-Busters" are spectral "clones" of the Ghostbusters Japan team. Reports from a bust two weeks ago all feature a HYPNOTIC MIRROR of some kind (see under Cursed Artifacts) which compelled them to look at themselves. Apparently, the Machine-Cultists collected copies of the Ghostbusters' souls and bonded them to four ghosts of their own. The end result: Four ghosts who can fight their human counterparts to a standstill. One unique side-effect of copying the 'Busters' souls: Every fight will end in a stalemate. Capturing a Machine-Buster will result in the death of a human Ghostbuster; likewise, if a Machine-Buster actually kills his or her counterpart, then it will cease to exist. Because of this circumstance, we can only determine that these elite soldiers are intended to be a distraction from any of the Machine-Cult's larger plans. SPECIAL ATTACKS: Each Machine-Buster has a unique move, equal and opposite to that particular Ghostbuster's equipment. MACHINE-JIYUKO: Where Jiyuko can take scans of ghosts, Machine-Jiyuko uses PKE as flash-bang/smoke grenades. MACHINE-MEGUMI: Where Megumi's equipment picks up energy trails, Machine-Megumi can either create false paths or suppress energy trails. MACHINE-YUJI: Where Yuji picks up EVP with recording equipment, Machine-Yuji can either "throw his voice," drown out manifestations, or deafen with sonic attacks. MACHINE-TETSUO: Where Tetsuo is the "heavy hitter" of the team, Machine-Tetsuo can take corporeal form with Black Slime and whatever debris is available. The Machine-Busters' ritual daggers function as powerful sidearms equal to the Proton Pack, except they fire streams of PKE at concentrations of above 5000 AK. (We think they are working on their own versions of the Packs' alternative functions--a ray that can encase human beings in ice, for example.) Their version of a Ghost Trap is a TALISMAN MINE (see under Cursed Artifacts) that uses a sudden burst of PKE to cause momentary immobility, just long enough to get that last attack in.
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Post by nixfgbfan on Feb 9, 2015 18:14:06 GMT -5
THE MACHINE-CULT We don't know very much about the Machine-Cult, except that it's very, very dangerous.
However, our first few encounters with the Cult and its technology have revealed some interesting details. I must give credit where credit is due.
Jiyuko got some high-quality scans of a Cultist in action. She and Megumi were analyzing the images in greater detail, and, somewhat disquietingly, its mask has strange yet familiar markings etched upon its surface. ======================================================== I was with Megs just a few minutes ago. Her and Jiyuko's findings make my blood run cold: The Machine-Cult's etchings are very similar to those used by the apparently-defunct Cult of Ivo Shandor.
To be sure, we're sending those scans and Yuji's* recordings from the encounter to the main New York office. ============================================================== It's settled, then. From all that we've gathered, I can only conclude that the Machine-Cult is an offshoot of the Cult of Shandor.
Also, Tetsuo found some kind of ritual dagger. It's a beautiful, yet horrific piece made of stainless steel and with an obsidian blade (or is it just steel that's been coated in Black Slime?) At the end of its handle, there's a metal carving of a leering, skull-like mask--this appears to be the Cult's trademark.
He's been slow to analyze it. He's not going to do it until he's ready; until then, he's getting himself ready. ================================================================= Hey. Tetsuo here. I'm ready, so let's do it.
It's kinda fuzzy at first...There's all kind of equations and symbols; I don't know what they mean, but I'll talk to the Prof.
There's a ritual circle. They're surrounding a poor bastard on a dais, or is it a machine? Can't really tell--it's pretty dark.
Guy's in a bad way. Got tubes and wires and things running through his arms and legs. Chanting something in a language I've never heard before. He looks pretty calm, but I see different: he's scared s__tless.
Are--Are they cuttin' out his heart? They're puttin' in something, looks like Iron Man's chest piece, but green.
They're drainin' his blood, and in goes the Black Slime. I've...never heard anyone scream like that...
More green light. They're doin' something to strip his soul away from his body, now he's a ghost.
Hope he finds some kind of peace in the Containment Unit.
(*AUTHOR'S NOTE: I think "Yuji" was called "Hiromu" at some point. I want to get away from three-syllable names, so Yuji it is.)
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Post by nixfgbfan on Feb 4, 2015 16:14:39 GMT -5
I'm having some trouble with much of the equipment.
The problem is one that has dogged me for most of my life: I can never simply lock something down and say "okay, that's it." I'm constantly redesigning, constantly refining--this revision has too much going on; that revision doesn't quite make sense; this thing is too similar to a Dyson piece.
To that end, I think I shall lay down some ground rules for what I want.
OVERARCHING RULE: GB.jp is as concerned with maintaining a good public appearance as it is with catching ghosts. The look of the equipment follows this idea.
- The equipment must be of sufficiently high-tech design, yet still retain the familiar, lovably clunky Ghostbusters silhouette. (This is why I chose the Dyson vacuum cleaners for the inspiration--they're futuristic, but not too minimalistic.)
- All other things being equal, the equipment must have as few individual parts ("greeblies") as possible.
a. Corollary to 2: Wherever individual parts are necessary, they must either 1) fold away seamlessly or 2) fit together so as to create a seamless appearance. - The equipment is modular. Parts can easily be broken down and rearranged to user preferences (the left-hander in me is rather annoyed that the Pack is right-handed).
- Whenever possible, individual parts should have some in-universe function applied to them, even if it's as simple as status lights.
- Above all else, the whole package should have some sense of internal logic to it.
CLAUSE: If nothing else, GB.jp is fairly traditionalist as far as iconography goes. This is why their packs retain the cyclotron lights and the climbing blue light on the side of the pack. Neither of them really indicate anything, but are there mostly because they've always been there.
This also explains why the team members carry dedicated sensing equipment rather than having it all on their computer terminals: having some kind of a "prop" just looks better, and besides, that's how it's always been done. (If you want to get technical, it's also because including the sensing equipment would put undue strain on the computer equipment.)
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Post by nixfgbfan on Feb 4, 2015 12:41:38 GMT -5
I'll have a look at the scripts on the DVD set when I have time.
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Post by nixfgbfan on Feb 4, 2015 12:33:35 GMT -5
Here's another great concept, one that should make this entirely different from the Columbia Pictures series.
Jake, Eddie, and Tracy (and their fathers before them) are not "the best, the beautiful, the ONLY" Ghostbusters.
They are but one of many, many teams that have existed throughout our history.
Wizards, knights, samurai, merchant-marines, cowboys...the list goes on. (They're not all part of a family-tree, mind: The genealogy only starts with Marshall Clinte back in the Old West.)
Zero chose his agents based on prior contact with the paranormal/supernatural. He gave each team a Dematerializer that was disguised as something period-appropriate (the medieval period = a wizard's scepter; the merchant sailors = a small treasure chest; the samurai period = a Ninja Turtles hand-lantern, etc.)
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Post by nixfgbfan on Feb 4, 2015 3:18:38 GMT -5
He's back...and it's about bloody time, too!
It's me again, but now I've got a spiffy new username.
I know I've been away for a while, but only because of the slightly incompetent "new Proboards." I kept trying to reset the password, but it never took. Ah well.
Work has kept me away from here and from most forums, but I'm back with loads of new ideas.
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